Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/31/2017 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 57 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 54 CRIME AND SENTENCING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 55 OMNIBUS CRIME/CORRECTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 55(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 97 PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
SENATE BILL NO. 54                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to crime  and criminal  law; relating                                                                    
     to violation  of condition of release;  relating to sex                                                                    
     trafficking;  relating   to  sentencing;   relating  to                                                                    
     probation; relating  to the pretrial  services program;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:16:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN  WILLIAMS,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS,                                                                    
(DOC) wondered whether he should  provide an overview of the                                                                    
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  shared that she  and Mr. Williams  had a                                                                    
conversation  about the  magnitude and  the implications  of                                                                    
the bill. She requested that  the conversation be put on the                                                                    
record  as to  why the  Senate was  seeing an  indeterminate                                                                    
fiscal  note. Commissioner  Williams  realized  that it  was                                                                    
unusual to  provide three fiscal  notes from DOC.  He shared                                                                    
that  there  had  been  great   analysis  of  the  financial                                                                    
implications of  SB 54. He  stressed that the DOC  relied on                                                                    
2015 with  new assumptions, with  no record of  "that really                                                                    
looks like." He felt that  DOC was "in a guesstimate place."                                                                    
He felt  that the indeterminate  note was the best  note DOC                                                                    
could offer.  He noted that  the data was from  2015 related                                                                    
to  the C  felony issue.  He  stressed that  there were  new                                                                    
assumptions from the recent change  in the law, so there was                                                                    
no firm standing  of the issue. He remarked  that there were                                                                    
new assumptions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:21:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  wondered  how  to  understand  all  the                                                                    
effects. She  stated that the commissioner  had attempted to                                                                    
put a range  in the variables to provide  the best estimates                                                                    
of the impact.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  remarked that approximately one-fifth  of the                                                                    
savings  from  the  previous  year's  projections  would  be                                                                    
returned. He wondered whether the  previous savings would be                                                                    
eliminated. Commissioner  Williams replied that some  of the                                                                    
changes  in SB  54 would  cost  more money.  He stated  that                                                                    
there   was   an   understanding   that   "hard   beds   are                                                                    
commodities." He agreed that some savings would be lost.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  stressed that  the public  wanted to  be sure                                                                    
that public safety would  be enhanced. Commissioner Williams                                                                    
agreed and stated  that the intention was  always to improve                                                                    
safety.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  felt that the  calculations in  the fiscal                                                                    
notes  were on  a one  to one  basis. Commissioner  Williams                                                                    
replied  that the  department was  always contemplating  the                                                                    
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon read page 2 of the fiscal note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:30:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULI  LUCKY, STAFF,  SENATOR ANNA  MACKINNON, explained  the                                                                    
other fiscal notes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:31:20 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:23 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:35:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof MOVED  Amendment 1, 30-LS0461\R.9, Martin,                                                                    
3/30/17 (copy on file):                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, following line 3:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
     "* Sec. 15. AS 29.25.070(g) is amended to read:                                                                            
     (g)  If  a  municipality  prescribes a  penalty  for  a                                                                    
     violation  of   a  municipal  ordinance,   including  a                                                                    
     violation under  (a) of  this section,  and there  is a                                                                    
     comparable state crime  [OFFENSE] under AS 11  or AS 28                                                                    
     with  elements  that  are   similar  to  the  municipal                                                                    
     ordinance, the  municipality may  not impose  a greater                                                                    
     punishment  than that  imposed for  a violation  of the                                                                    
     state  crime [LAW].  This  subsection  applies to  home                                                                    
     rule and general law municipalities."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OBJECTED for DISCUSSION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  explained Amendment  1. She  stated that                                                                    
the language amended AS 33.16.130  subsection C, which dealt                                                                    
with the  scheduling of follow-up parole  hearings following                                                                    
a denial of parole.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:37:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  EDWARDS,  DIRECTOR  OF PAROLE  BOARD,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  stated that  there  was  ambiguity in  the                                                                    
language of SB 91. He shared  that prior to SB 91, the board                                                                    
felt obligated to set a ten-year rule.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  queried the  effect of  the parole  status of                                                                    
those  incarcerates in  rural  Alaska.  Mr. Edwards  replied                                                                    
that it would  allow more flexibility for the  board to make                                                                    
their decisions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  surmised that  there  would  be no  negative                                                                    
effect on his district.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:40:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JORDAN SCHILLING,  STAFF, SENATOR JOHN COGHILL,  stated that                                                                    
the sponsor of the bill was in support of the amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  felt that the  amendment was  an important                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  Mr.  Schilling to  remain at  the                                                                    
table. She  announced some people who  were available online                                                                    
to answer questions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  WITHDREW her  OBJECTION. There  being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:42:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  Amendment  2, 30-LS046  l  \R.6,  Martin,                                                                    
3/29/17 (copy on file).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OBJECTED for DISCUSSION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  explained the  amendment. He  stated there                                                                    
was  a  report  that  showed the  high  cost  of  controlled                                                                    
substance and  alcohol abuse  in the  state. He  stated that                                                                    
the  amendment   required  that  individuals   complete  the                                                                    
Alcohol Safety  Action Program (ASAP) program  when arrested                                                                    
for misconduct involving a controlled substance.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman  queried   the  fee   schedules.  Senator                                                                    
Micciche replied that the fee schedules were in Section 11.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:45:42 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:45:50 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:45:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  stated  that  the  fee  schedule  was  in                                                                    
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  queried the  bill sponsor's  position on                                                                    
the amendment.  Mr. Schilling replied  that the  sponsor did                                                                    
not oppose the  amendment, and it did not  conflict with the                                                                    
commission's recommendations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:47:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TONY  PIPER, ASAP  MANAGER, DIVISION  OF BEHAVIORAL  HEALTH,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), introduced himself.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  asked   for   information  about   the                                                                    
amendment and  the fiscal note.  Mr. Piper replied  that the                                                                    
amount of  people added  to the system  was small  enough to                                                                    
use the current  staffing. The added fees  would help offset                                                                    
any costs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  wondered  whether the  program  participants                                                                    
would pay for  at least part of the cost.  Mr. Piper replied                                                                    
in the affirmative.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson noted that some  of the participants were from                                                                    
lower   incomes.   He   wondered  how   those   individuals,                                                                    
especially  those  in  rural   Alaska,  would  pay  for  the                                                                    
program. Mr.  Piper replied that  many people could  pay the                                                                    
$200  fee.  He  stressed   that  the  service  was  provided                                                                    
regardless of payment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson queried  the locations  of the  programs. Mr.                                                                    
Piper  replied  that  the  ASAP  offices  were  in  thirteen                                                                    
different areas.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered who paid  for transportation from the                                                                    
rural  areas.   Mr.  Piper   replied  that   occasionally  a                                                                    
treatment office would provide the treatment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered how a  someone without access to ASAP                                                                    
participate in  the program. Mr.  Piper responded  that that                                                                    
person would  seek help with  the closest  treatment agency.                                                                    
There  were some  opportunities for  distance agencies,  and                                                                    
some treatment over the internet.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:51:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson noted  that internet  was  only available  in                                                                    
schools in rural Alaska. Mr. Piper understood.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  stated  that  the  amendment  would  only                                                                    
expand  ASAP  to  those violations  involving  a  controlled                                                                    
substance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  if the  commissioner could  comment on                                                                    
the matter.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Williams stated  that he  was unfamiliar  with                                                                    
the situation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  stated that rural  Alaska often did  not have                                                                    
access like the other parts of the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:53:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SKIDMORE, DIRECTOR,  CRIMINAL DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
LAW,  explained that  ASAP  was a  condition  that could  be                                                                    
imposed, but  not required. He  had practiced law in  the YK                                                                    
Delta, Bethel, Bristol Bay, and  Dillingham, and judges were                                                                    
familiar with  what was available  in their  communities. He                                                                    
reiterated  that the  amendment  would allow  people to  use                                                                    
ASAP when available.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered if people  in places such  as Chevak                                                                    
would be disadvantaged.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skidmore acknowledged that there  were not challenges in                                                                    
rural communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked  if Mr. Skidmore considered  there to be                                                                    
undue challenges.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Skidmore agreed that there were challenges.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  WITHDREW her  OBJECTION. There  being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:56:06 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:00 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:57:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  MOVED Amendment 3,  30-LS0461\R.5, Martin,                                                                    
3/28/17 (copy on file0:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 11, following line 12:                                                                                                
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
     "*Sec.  18. AS  33.30.061 is  amended by  adding a  new                                                                    
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
     (d)  A prisoner  serving a  term of  imprisonment at  a                                                                    
     private   residence  as   required   by  statute   when                                                                    
     electronic monitoring is not  available does not have a                                                                    
     liberty interest  in that status. The  commissioner may                                                                    
     return the  prisoner to a correctional  facility if the                                                                    
     commissioner finds  that the prisoner has  violated the                                                                    
     terms  and  conditions  of   the  imprisonment  at  the                                                                    
     private residence."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 12, line 8:                                                                                                           
     Delete "sec. 21"                                                                                                           
     Insert "sec. 22"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OBJECTED for DISCUSSION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:57:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINA RITACCO,  STAFF, SENATOR MIKE DUNLEAVY,  explained that                                                                    
the  amendment  was  requested  by  the  Office  of  Victims                                                                    
Rights. She  stated that there was  concern about first-time                                                                    
DUI offenders  who were not  on electronic  monitoring would                                                                    
allow  for  the commissioner  to  send  them to  prison  for                                                                    
violating their  house arrest.  The amendment  clarified the                                                                    
language that the commissioner had that authority.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wondered whether  there was  any comment                                                                    
from other agencies regarding the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof  asked  how  many  people  violated  the                                                                    
electronic monitoring.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy stated that he did not have those numbers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:58:40 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:59:14 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:59:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  queried data that provided  the number of                                                                    
instances   where   prisoners    violated   the   electronic                                                                    
monitoring.   Commissioner   Williams   replied   that   the                                                                    
provision was too new to provide data.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof wondered if there  had been conversations                                                                    
with  the  Office of  Victims  Rights  regarding the  issue.                                                                    
Commissioner Williams replied that  the amendment was a "red                                                                    
hot  area."  He  stressed  that  the  issue  was  about  the                                                                    
capacity for the department to respond to the issues.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon queried  the administration's position on                                                                    
Amendment 3.  Commissioner Williams replied that  he did not                                                                    
have a position on Amendment  3. He understood the amendment                                                                    
sponsor's   intention.  He   expressed  concern   about  the                                                                    
expectation  to respond,  and the  department's capacity  to                                                                    
respond.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon looked  at line 6 of  the amendment, "the                                                                    
commissioner  may  return  the prisoner  to  a  correctional                                                                    
facility, if  the commissioner finds  that the  prisoner has                                                                    
violated  the terms  and conditions  of imprisonment  at the                                                                    
private  sector."  Commissioner   Williams  recognized  that                                                                    
discretionary language.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:02:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  wondered whether the  commissioner already                                                                    
possessed the authority.  Commissioner Williams replied that                                                                    
there is a  debate about whether that  authority was already                                                                    
granted.  He stated  that some  believed that  the authority                                                                    
was already there.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  stressed  that  the  amendment  was  only                                                                    
clarifying language.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche wondered what it  meant when a prisoner did                                                                    
not have a liberty interest in the status.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Skidmore stated  that liberty  interest was  for first-                                                                    
time DUIs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:06:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  queried the  bill sponsor's  position on                                                                    
Amendment 3.  Mr. Schilling stated that  Senator Coghill did                                                                    
not  oppose the  amendment.  The  amendment clarified  DOC's                                                                    
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  WITHDREW her  OBJECTION. There  being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  stated  that  she planned  to  bring  a                                                                    
committee substitute before the committee on Monday.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:06:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  shared  that  commission  had  discussion                                                                    
regarding the zero to ninety-day presumptive jail range.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schilling stated that he was in support of the change.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon queried comment on the proposal.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy wondered  whether  Co-Chair Hoffman  would                                                                    
only be offering one amendment.  Co-Chair Hoffman replied in                                                                    
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB  54  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 54 Department of Law Response - Plea Negotiations.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54
SB 55 Amendment 1 MacKinnon.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 55
SB 54 Opposition Burwen.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54
SB 54 Testimony Helander.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54
SB 54 Amendment 3 Dunleavy.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54
SB 54 Amendment 1 Von Imhof.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54
SB 54 Amendment 2 Micchiche.pdf SFIN 3/31/2017 9:00:00 AM
SB 54